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April 12, 2020 by Tien Chiu 9 Comments

Unexpected results

Today I’m giving thanks for my methodical, always-sample-first approach!

I was considering the “Just Do It” approach and just diving into dyeing my warp. But a little voice said, “Mixed fibers – you don’t know what will happen!” So I wound and dyed a small test swatch first. And boy howdy, am I glad I did!

Here’s the effect I was after – the fuchsia and green swatch on the right:

navy blue and fuchsia/green tie-dyed swatches

Here are the colors I used:

four dye swatches - fuchsia and green on top

And here is what I wound up with, after dyeing:

Yarn sample in fuchsia, salmon, and purple, with just a little bit of green

I’ve got lovely shades of fuchsia, purple, and pinky-orange, but where did the green go??

Here’s what I’m pretty sure happened.

The fuchsia struck equally well on both cotton and silk. No problem there.

The yellow struck preferentially on one fiber (I suspect the silk). It got zooped up immediately, leaving none for the other fiber.

The blue either attached preferentially to the other fiber (I think the cotton), OR the fuchsia and yellow hit first, and saturated out the dye sites on the silk (silk has fewer bonding sites than cotton), leaving nowhere for the blue to attach. So only one fiber got the blue dye.

The end result: the blue only dyed one fiber and the yellow only dyed one fiber. The fuchsia dyed both fibers. So I wound up with fuchsia in the areas I dabbed with fuchsia, a mix of salmon (fuchsia+yellow) and purple (fuchsia+blue) in the areas where fuchsia mixed with green, and blue and yellow and a teeny-tiny bit of green in the areas that were pure green.

Since I deliberately made most of the areas a mix of fuchsia and green (I didn’t want a whole lot of green), that meant that I wound up with a LOT of fuchsia-and-purple and almost no green.

So that idea is DOA. Good thing I sampled first!

At this point I have a few options:

I can try to get green from a different mix of dyes. There are four “pure” blues in the MX dyes and two yellows. A different combo may produce a green less inclined to “break” into component dyes. I’m a bit skeptical of this since I’ve heard all the blues are slower-striking than all the yellows, but it might be worth a try.

I can change the colors I’m trying to achieve. This seems like a sounder approach. If I use a single “pure” dye, or two more closely related colors than magenta and green (which are color-wheel opposites), I’ll probably get less chaos. If I want to see my pattern clearly, it would be good to use two colors of similar values (darkness). I’ll have to think about what colors, though, and of course do considerable sampling. I may be back to my favorite color combination, blue and orange-red, again. Not the worst of color combinations (I mean, it’s my favorite for a reason), but I’d kind of like to experiment with something different, too.

Whatever I do, though, I’ll definitely have to sample. Doing a mixed fiber warp is complicating things more than I’d expected. But that just makes it more fun!

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  1. Ian Bowers says

    April 12, 2020 at 6:24 am

    When you say ‘single pue colour’ are you sure you are using a single chemical compound and not a mix of dye compounds?
    When we have had dye customers with a similar problem, my advice has been to dye with one known pure colour at a time. Measure quantities carefully in the sample and repeat precisely for real. Normally start with the slowest to strike .

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    • Tien Chiu says

      April 12, 2020 at 6:58 am

      Hi Ian,

      The fuchsia is a pure color. The green is a mix of yellow and blue – there is no pure MX green. The problem is that I don’t want yellow or blue, nor do I want a level color – I want them to appear together in the same proportions throughout. I can’t think of a way to avoid splitting in this context, and overdyeing won’t work to produce a consistent mottled color. So I think I’m better off going with a different set of dyes and/or a different color.

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  2. Denise says

    April 12, 2020 at 6:41 am

    Have you tried W Cushing Dyes in Maine? They have colors that are pure & won’t break. Give Lisa Ann a call.

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    • Tien Chiu says

      April 12, 2020 at 7:00 am

      Thanks, Denise. I’ll check, but I suspect they won’t have a solution for this particular problem either – the standard dyes for cotton are MX fiber-reactives, and there are only 14 manufactured colors (13 now that Cerulean Blue has been discontinued by the manufacturer). But I’ll give it a try.

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  3. Cynthia M Moosey says

    April 12, 2020 at 6:53 am

    Try doing your green first. Giving it time to bond. Than add rest of colors.

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    • Tien Chiu says

      April 12, 2020 at 7:01 am

      Thanks! I’ve already tested the gold and fuchsia – if I like it I will go with that. if not, I will test your idea…it’s a good one! I suspect it will still split but will see what happens.

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  4. Lee says

    April 12, 2020 at 8:12 am

    It may to be the colours you were looking for, but it’s beautiful!

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  5. Teresa Ruch says

    April 12, 2020 at 10:58 am

    Have you thought of applying the blue and fuchsia to the warp, wait a few minutes and them dab the yellow on top of the blue it should blend on the fiber to give you the green, probably.

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    • Tien Chiu says

      April 13, 2020 at 7:11 am

      Interesting idea! Would probably work except I was planning to spatter the green on the fuchsia in small dots for maximum randomness. Would probably be hard to duplicate accurately. But I could do larger dots and give that a try…will try that if the fuchsia/orange/yellow doesn’t work. Thanks!

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