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December 10, 2023 by Tien Chiu

Velvet doodles

The velvet warp is now dyed and in the Eternal Rinse Cycle. I say “eternal” because I’ve been soaking/rinsing it for two and a half days now and small amounts of color are STILL coming out. Really dark blues are prone to bleeding, and this is an extremely dark blue, but still, this is ridiculous. I am considering boiling it with detergent as a “Take THAT!” measure, because I am eager to get on with putting on the warp.

Normally I wouldn’t worry about a teeny-tiny bit of bleeding (it generally doesn’t stick), but there’s some chance I might decide to use white for the pile, in which case even a little bleeding will be disastrous. And velvet is VERY time-consuming to weave, so weaving an entire piece and then discovering bleeding would be, well, tragic. I could always try weaving a sample to find out, but better to avoid bleeding entirely.

I am not, however, planning on using white, at least right now. I spent the morning playing with potential color combinations. With a two-color polychrome velvet warp, I get three warp colors: the foundation warp, pile warp #1, and pile warp #2. I also get all the mixes of any two warps, with the caveat that the blends will generally not be smooth.

Because I am constitutionally incapable of doing anything simple, I’ve been messing around with gradients in both polychrome warps. I spent the morning doodling up possible designs with different gradient combinations, and have settled on these two gradients for the pile:

yellow to red color gradient
blue to green to blue symmetric gradient

The foundation warp, of course, is already decided (mottled dark blue, black, and purple) and will look like this:

mottled blue-black-purple background

(That looks like pure black, especially on a white background, but it’s not. It has very subtle color changes.)

I can choose any one of these color sets, or mixes of each of them, to work with in my design.

Here are a few of my doodles:

orange and yellow phoenix on blue-green background
"sunset" on an alien blue-green sky with mottled black liquid splashing upwards
red-yellow and blue-green double spiral
red-yellow spiral

and my favorite:

"woven cloth" in a double color gradient

The combination of an asymmetric gradient and a symmetric one produces a far more interesting result than two symmetric or two asymmetric gradients. That was a surprise, but I’m really liking it.

These are just doodles, not serious work. I’m exploring the space of possible designs with these color combinations so I can choose colors. I haven’t yet figured out how to create those gradients, how many threads to wind together, or any of a host of other things. And when I start, I’ll likely start with a series of samples to fine-tune my setup before progressing on to actual designs.

But I’m really excited by the possibilities so far.

Some people, on the other hand, are upset about my dereliction of duty as I play around with possibilities. Clearly it is time to stop playing with velvet and do my One Job – catering to feline whims.

Fritz pawing at me, claws out.

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  1. Sandy Lincoln says

    December 10, 2023 at 8:06 am

    Fritz looks like Kitty. Kitty has an extra toe.
    Have you ever tried those sheets that some put in with the rinse to catch the rogue color?https://lunaticfringeyarns.com/product/color-trapping-sheets/ That’s it color trapping sheets from Lunatic Fringe, I have not had to use them as everything so far has rinsed clean.
    One dyer explained it to me that if you just keep rinsing and rinsing, the rogue dye will keep settling back onto your yarn and using those sheets, keeps it from the yarn and catches it before it can settle back on your yarn. Make sense.

    • Tien Chiu says

      December 10, 2023 at 5:26 pm

      Interesting. Haven’t tried it yet, but may if the boiling-in-soapy-water trick doesn’t finish the bleeding…

  2. Claudia Cocco says

    December 10, 2023 at 8:20 am

    Have you tried vinegar in the rinse? Doesn’t always work, but worth a shot. On the doodles, check out http://www.theorooden.nl/instalinks/?fbclid=PAAaZjZewpaLLk56k_Mng5c0K3TlnYUXf7BqY2uN-RplBRIHRmls4hEeNKTwE_aem_AZonGdGsRII3sD9FFi4w0rgZGQwXjfUzqKjXJ_1rXTWHogypV8JWPSorWFyJKu1vItc for some additional inspiration on the 3D approach.

    • Tien Chiu says

      December 10, 2023 at 5:25 pm

      Didn’t do vinegar in the rinse this time, but may try it if I have to do yet ANOTHER round… (boiled it in detergent for half an hour today). Love that artist’s work! Thanks for sharing the website.

  3. Charlene Schmidt says

    December 10, 2023 at 10:24 am

    I love your process, Tien, expecially the part about being “constitutionally incapable of anything simple.” I can also relate to the feline demands for attention.

  4. Mary S says

    December 10, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    I don’t actually know anything about this first hand, but John Marshall in a podcast he did for Long Thread Media (Feb. 4, 2022) mentions the use of soy milk in Japan to prevent crocking. Worth investigating.

  5. Cheryl says

    December 11, 2023 at 3:50 am

    The last doodle with the weave pattern made me audibly go “ooo,” if that helps. The dark outline shows the colors to good effect and it was with great effort that I pulled myself away from trying to follow every strand to see if there is a repeating rhythm or hidden code. A+ fairy trap.

    also I love that you looked at your super not-simple warps and were like, but what if four-arm spiral?

    (not a weaver, just someone who decided to add customized cables to my second ever pair of socks, interrupting my two-at-a-time needle management. The struggle is real)

    • Tien Chiu says

      December 11, 2023 at 6:11 am

      Heh! Thanks, glad to hear your thoughts!

      With cables, I never use cable needles – I just drop the stitches and quickly pick them up with the correct needle. Simplifies things a lot!

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